http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/extended-discussion/what-s-wrong-with-being-gay-bi/t.55076725_106/
Ok. I think justifying opinion, was it against homosexuality or homosexuals approving, with bible demands that you know what you are talking about, tryly.
Sure the Bible says quite few things which have become downright favourite arguments to those who hold the Bible proper scource of arguments to deny homosexuality. But - since when love, same love that Christians so much like to talk about in the name of God, has been disgraceful or wrong thing? What does it matter, when it's that same love between two men and women?
The books of the Bible have written in very different time and culture to compared to our own. During the times of Bible the relationship between man and woman didn't start with falling in love and affection which was followed by commitment and respect from their free will. No. Back then it was decision made through will of parents and familys, practicality and propriety. Woman was moved by marriage to property of her husband from her father or other made relative. Our modern system would most likely be as weird and yet cruel in their eyes (since to women and children marriage actually was good and safe, since treatment of unmarried free women and illegitimate children wasn't very good one) than their system is in our eyes, but that directly doesn't make one better than another. Systems are just different.
Free man back then was in most highest position in creation. Woman was under her husbands guardianship (or fathers or whose male relatives house she lived in, before marriage), and husband had right to decide in behalf of woman. Of course, it wasn't even back then honourable or decent to treat your wife, servants, slaves, cattle or wealth carelessly or grievously.
Jesus itself teaches, in Gospel of Matthew (19:10-12), that marriage (now let's think about it how it was understanded back then, between man and woman) is only to those who are created to that part. If someone is incapable to marriage, why to commit sin of lying and not only to yourself but also to God and engage into bad marriage?
Nearly everytime the Bible talks about homosexuality, there is act involved and situations verge downright rape, in other words humiliating and lowering another man from his status as crown of creatin. This happens at least in Book of Judges (19:22-23) verse which with Book of Genesis' (19:5-8) infamous Sodom is sure ironically many times already heard argument agains homosexuality (not to mention both of these verses continue with turn where rapists are offered women to have sex with). In Epistle to the Romans there is also one verse (1:27) which talks briefly about homosexuality, and usually it's quoted detached from context. If you read and examine whole text around the verse, you find that the message what St. Paul is trying to tell is that don't take a stand of God and don't judge each other.
So, what the heck does rape have in common with steady, loving, respecting relationship between two people, who possibly have sex with each other? I can't come up with the single thing. It goes with relationships with man and woman, two men and two women. There is really no differences.
(I'm not native English speaker, so my writing can not absolutely be perfect. Also I have not read English translation of the Bible so verses I mentioned are correct with Finnish, my native languages translation of the Bible, but not necessary with the English translation. If someone knows better of finds verses you think I meant, please correct me.)
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Use the Schwartz, Eino-Petteri!!Keskiviikko 14.10.2009 12:20
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Ready to let go, ready to clash.Keskiviikko 07.10.2009 20:52
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Far Low StyleTiistai 25.08.2009 14:31
Hyvä aamu. Heräsin, kuulkaas, joskus kello ööneljä aamuyöllä siihen kun... no että olin illalla ajatellut oikaisevani selkää ja sitten pistäväni tietokoneen latinkiin ja nukahtanut sit vahingossa. Väsyneelle sattuu.
Piti muuttaa huoneen kiva järjestys huonoksi että sai nettipiuhan seinään, mut iMac kehrää kuin kissa. Gimpin asessus ei ottanut onnistuakseen mutta sainpaha mesen. Paljon muuta tarvikaan. Järkytyin kun tajusin ettei openCanvas tai Paint.NET mene macille. Pittää sitten miettiä sitä Elementsiä. Piirto-ohjelmaksi ihan varmasti ihan riittävä.
Asuntolassa jatkuu meno entisellään. Kun joku pääsee kiduttamasta kansaa phenomenaalisilla tiskivuorilla niin eiköhän vain joku toinen ala hemmetti vie viskomaan tavaraa pitkin pirttiä. Ilmeisesti alakertaa on pesiytynyt jonkin sortin rasisti, joka sotkee naapurin jalkapalloilija pojan ovia mehulla. Valvojat vaikuttivat aika epätoivoisilta kun tulivat kyselemään (olen kuulemma luotettava taho?) että oonko huomannu/kuullu mitään. Min olin et en varman kun olin viikonlopun kotona...
Ei siinä eteikö aihe olisi vakava. Jalkapuuhun tuommoiset, sillä ainakin minulla on nolla toleranssi rasismin suhteen (tämä ei tarkoita ettäkö arvostaisin niitä pikku ipanoita jotka kaakkurin sittarin kulmalla huorittelevat ohikulkijoita: jostain niiden on täytynyt retoriikkansa oppia, vai mitä).
Sopeutuminen, missä yhteydessä hyvänsä on suoraan verrannollinen siihen kuinka annetaan sopeutua.
Piti muuttaa huoneen kiva järjestys huonoksi että sai nettipiuhan seinään, mut iMac kehrää kuin kissa. Gimpin asessus ei ottanut onnistuakseen mutta sainpaha mesen. Paljon muuta tarvikaan. Järkytyin kun tajusin ettei openCanvas tai Paint.NET mene macille. Pittää sitten miettiä sitä Elementsiä. Piirto-ohjelmaksi ihan varmasti ihan riittävä.
Asuntolassa jatkuu meno entisellään. Kun joku pääsee kiduttamasta kansaa phenomenaalisilla tiskivuorilla niin eiköhän vain joku toinen ala hemmetti vie viskomaan tavaraa pitkin pirttiä. Ilmeisesti alakertaa on pesiytynyt jonkin sortin rasisti, joka sotkee naapurin jalkapalloilija pojan ovia mehulla. Valvojat vaikuttivat aika epätoivoisilta kun tulivat kyselemään (olen kuulemma luotettava taho?) että oonko huomannu/kuullu mitään. Min olin et en varman kun olin viikonlopun kotona...
Ei siinä eteikö aihe olisi vakava. Jalkapuuhun tuommoiset, sillä ainakin minulla on nolla toleranssi rasismin suhteen (tämä ei tarkoita ettäkö arvostaisin niitä pikku ipanoita jotka kaakkurin sittarin kulmalla huorittelevat ohikulkijoita: jostain niiden on täytynyt retoriikkansa oppia, vai mitä).
Sopeutuminen, missä yhteydessä hyvänsä on suoraan verrannollinen siihen kuinka annetaan sopeutua.
Hakuoki Shinsengumi KitanPerjantai 21.08.2009 15:30
Otakut lukee mangaaKeskiviikko 19.08.2009 12:03
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/elemental_gelade/v01/c001.2/
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/devil_may_cry/
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dogs_bullets_carnage/
Pääsinpä taas lukemisen makuun. Jätän nää tähän ylös että löytyy sukkelammin kun haluttaa jatkaa. Joskus pari vuotta sitten tuli tutustuttua ainakin tohon Elemental Geladeen animena. Yuki Kajiurakaan ei sitä åelastanut mutta manga näyttää hienolta. Dogs on ollut kuriositeetti jo kauan.
EDITO Ja ernut kuuntelee J-rokkia. Tykästyin tuohon Danger Gangiin tuossa aamulla.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/devil_may_cry/
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dogs_bullets_carnage/
Pääsinpä taas lukemisen makuun. Jätän nää tähän ylös että löytyy sukkelammin kun haluttaa jatkaa. Joskus pari vuotta sitten tuli tutustuttua ainakin tohon Elemental Geladeen animena. Yuki Kajiurakaan ei sitä åelastanut mutta manga näyttää hienolta. Dogs on ollut kuriositeetti jo kauan.
EDITO Ja ernut kuuntelee J-rokkia. Tykästyin tuohon Danger Gangiin tuossa aamulla.
Musapäiväkirja.Maanantai 17.08.2009 03:16
Ihkuboksi tuli nyt täyteen. Vähän yli vuoden kestäneen leppoisan projektin tulos on sitten tässä. Pitää kerätä selkärankaa resetoidakseen ihkuboksin, jotta voisi vetää uuden kierroksen.
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060508 Leverage - Dreamworld
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070508 Apocalyptica - Hope
090508 Adema - The way you like it
110508 Santa Esmeralda - Don't let me be misunderstood
120508 All-American Rejects - It ends tonight
130508 Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood
130508 CMX - Minun sydämeni on särkynyt
130508 Machinae Supremacy - Trough the looking glass
140508 Soul Captain Band - Joka Maataan Viljelee
220508 Elvis - Little less conversation
220508 Mikuni Shimokawa - All the way
260508 Madonna - Get Together
260508 MUCC - Libra
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030808 Neljä Ruusua - Tie Ajatuksiin
090808 Tatsh - Xepher
090808 RevenG - Sakura
120808 Orange Range - Asteriks (Romantic Version)
150808 Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get Retarded
160808 Maxium the Hormones - What's up, People!?
270808 HAZU - Stray Dog
040908 Bomfunk MC's - No Way In Hell
070908 Moppi & Aivokurkiaiset - Homorakkaus
130908 Kerli - Walking On Air
140908 Lifehouse - Everything
160908 Coco Lee - A Love Before Time
170908 RevenG - Tsugaru
170908 Adema - Immortal
190908 DJ Pretzel - Everything = Nothing
260908 Tiny Tim - Having a Wonderful Time
280908 Dissidia: Final Fantasy - Overture to Dissidia
290908 The Incubus - The Warmth
290908 Papa Roach - To Be Loved
111008 Yoko Shimomura - Somnus Nemoris
191008 Bon Jovi - Living on a Prayer
221008 Poets of the Fall - Delicious
161108 Nightwish - Ever Dream
181108 Korn - Twisted Transistor
181108 Matchbox 22 - Let's See How Far We've Come
191108 Dir En Grey - Cage
251108 Machinae Supremacy - Hero
261108 Nana Kitade - Kasenai Tsumi
261108 Red Jumpsuit Apparatus - Face Down
271108 Brooke Fraser - Shadowfeet
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070109 Nobotoshi Kanna - Owaranai Yume no naka de
110109 One Republic - Apologize
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130109 Hector - Mä olen hautausmaa
150109 News - Weeeek
160109 Machinae Supremacy - Sidstyler
180109 Millencolin - Ray
190109 Fort Minor - Remember the name
230109 Final Fantasy VI Cantata for Dancing: II - Fuga Kefka
250109 Three Days Grace - Time of Dying
260109 The Seatbelts - Tank!
280109 The 69 Eyes - Still Waters Run Deep
010209 Devil May Cry 3 OST - Battle 1
010209 Devil May Cry 3 - Devils never cry
050309 Seether - Broken
240309 Disco Ensemble - Drop Dead Casanova
250309 Three Days Grace - Over & Over
270309 Al Stewart - Year of a Cat
020409 Madonna - Hollywood
050409 Tori Amos - Garlands
050409 Simoun OST - Shizuka narui inori no koe
160409 Billy Talent - Red Flag
160409 Guano Apes - Open your eyes
160409 The Avett Brothers - Sanguine
060509 Pillar - Frontline
180509 The Deadly syndrome - I hope I become a ghost
180509 MUCC - Ageha
280509 The Black Mages - Those who fight further
250609 God of Shamisen - Dragon String Attack
170709 Seether - Careless whisper
190709 Radwimps - Hekkushun
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LukihäiriöitäKeskiviikko 03.06.2009 02:23
Luin äsken sanan 'tanssipelit' - 'tissipelit'.
PosemaniacsPerjantai 24.04.2009 15:38
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