IRC-Galleria

1. "THE FACT THAT WE CANNOT CONCEIVE THE MIND/BODY PROBLEM NOW DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT STAYS OUT OF OUR REACH FOREVER"


E: 100% disagreed. Findin' the answer for that problem would make life meaningless whatever
is the answer.


R: THIS IS INHERENTLY FALSE, UNLESS ONE'S PRIMARY REASON FOR EXISTENCE IS NOT UNDERSTANDING THE MIND/BODY DICHOTOMY. TO PUT MORE SIMPLY, THIS IS A FALSE DICHOTOMY WITH NO GROUNDS; IT MAKES TWO ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE FALSE BY DEFINITION: 1) THERE IS ONLY ONE UNIVERSAL REASON FOR LIFE (AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS NO VARIANCE BETWEEN DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS) AND 2) BY SOLVING THE PROBLEM LIFE SUDDENLY BECOMES MEANINGLESS.

ALSO, WHEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE PREMISE OF MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT WAS "EVEN THOUGH X IS NOT KNOWN NOW, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT REMAINS THAT WAY FOREVER", YOUR REBUTTAL IS OUT OF THE CONTEXT EVEN MORE.

E2: Ok. I must admit that this part of my theory were based on my own philosophy.
Still it would take part of human world, thougths. Solving the problem would make us able to make thoughts (there is one exception:if the answer has something to do with God or anyother idealistic force).
Its impossible to picture the resolve.
If you give my one possible (even kind of -possible) answer I will explain you.
Before you have given me any possible answer we're here only discussin' my way of writing.


E: You can picture future society, you can picture future human. It is impossible to picture the basis of human thoughts.


R: THE ERROR WITHIN THIS STATEMENT IS THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS THE UNDERSTANDING OF A PRESENT DAY HUMAN. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT NOTION; YOU CAN JUDGE EVERYTHING BASED ON YOUR LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING AND THAT ONLY.
TO THINK THAT YOUR MIND HAS EVOLVED INTO ITS ZENITH IS NOT ONLY NAÏVE BUT WITHOUT ANY PROOF ALSO.

E2:Ok,well then. Why have you judged God?


IT MUST ALSO BE MENTIONED THAT CURRENT DISCOVERIES IN THE FIELD OF NEUROSCIENCE POINT OUT TO A VERY DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN WHERE YOU ARE POINTING AT.

Neuroscience is (as far as I know) not even trying to solve mind-body problem. Almost all of reserchers have given up with it. All books of psykology that I've read (approx. 5) have said that consensus among psykologists is quite clear: Mind-body problem is impossible to solve.


E: If you can picture basis for human thoughts without making life meaningless, I will take back my comment and give you 100€


R: IN A WAY I ALREADY PROVED YOUR STATEMENT INCORRECT. I WILL BE WAITING FOR THE BANK TRANSFER.


E2: I promised 100€ for picturing the basis for human thouhgs without making life meaningless, not for proving me wrong.


Amendment1:
Also I must add that you can't give the resolve ass God nor anyother idealistic way. That amendment has been made only because when I first give you this task, it was for you and as we both know you do not believe in any idealistic world.

Amendment2:
I've used here a word "idealistic", meaning its ontological meaning, opposite is materialism.